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Derya Sazak<\/p><\/div>\n

G\u00fcl, 12 Eyl\u00fcl d\u00f6neminde kendisine i\u015fkence yap\u0131lmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, ancak g\u00f6zleri ba\u011fl\u0131 sorguland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ve siyasi \u015fubede i\u015fkence g\u00f6renlerin \u00f6n\u00fcnden ge\u00e7ti\u011fini anlatt\u0131. G\u00fcl, \u201cKarde\u015fim Macit \u00e7ok daha a\u011f\u0131r \u015fartlarda i\u00e7eride kald\u0131, i\u015fkence g\u00f6rd\u00fc\u201d dedi<\/p>\n

New York<\/strong><\/p>\n

Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 Abdullah G\u00fcl, BM Genel Kurulu Toplant\u0131lar\u0131\u2019na kat\u0131lmak \u00fczere \u00fc\u00e7 bakanla ABD\u2019ye giderken, u\u00e7akta gazetecilerle sohbet etti. Anayasa referandumu ard\u0131ndan 12 Eyl\u00fcl 1980 darbesinde ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 anlat\u0131rken, \u201cGe\u00e7mi\u015fin yarg\u0131lanmas\u0131ndan \u00e7ok, gelece\u011fe bakmak gerekti\u011fini\u201d s\u00f6yledi.<\/p>\n

Darbeden sonra \u0130stanbul\u2019da \u201cBayrak Operasyonu\u201d kapsam\u0131nda g\u00f6zalt\u0131na al\u0131nan G\u00fcl, Metris\u2019e g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fclm\u00fc\u015f, \u201cg\u00f6zleri ba\u011fl\u0131\u201d sorgulanm\u0131\u015f. G\u00fcl kendisine i\u015fkence yap\u0131lmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ancak siyasi \u015fubede i\u015fkence g\u00f6renlerin \u00f6n\u00fcnden ge\u00e7ti\u011fini anlatt\u0131. U\u00e7akta Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 G\u00fcl ile yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z s\u00f6yle\u015fi \u015f\u00f6yle:<\/p>\n

12 Eyl\u00fcl askeri darbesinde neler ya\u015fad\u0131n\u0131z?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Kayseri\u2019de evlendik, bir hafta sonra \u0130stanbul\u2019a geldik. Darbeden habersiz Sahray\u0131cedit Camii\u2019ne Cuma namaz\u0131na gittim. Bakt\u0131m, bir anormallik var. \u2018\u0130htilal oldu\u2019 dediler, \u2018Ne ihtilali? Sa\u011f m\u0131 sol mu\u2019 diye sordum. \u00d6\u011frencilik y\u0131llar\u0131ndan bilinen insan\u0131z, bizimle ne ilgisi olabilir, diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fcm. Evi yeni tutmu\u015fum, nas\u0131l olsa kimse bilmez diye rahat\u0131m. Cumartesi sabah\u0131 erken saatte zil \u00e7ald\u0131, kap\u0131y\u0131 a\u00e7t\u0131m, bir \u00fcste\u011fmen, elinde liste var, \u2018G\u00f6zalt\u0131na alaca\u011f\u0131z\u2019 dedi. Hayr\u00fcnnisa han\u0131ma s\u00f6yledim, \u00e7ok \u015fa\u015f\u0131rd\u0131. \u2018\u00dcste\u011fmene bir kahve, misafirimiz\u2019 dedim. Telefon yok, kimseye haber veremiyorum. D\u0131\u015far\u0131 \u00e7\u0131k\u0131nca Kayseri\u2019ye telefon a\u00e7t\u0131m, \u2018Beni g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcyorlar\u2019 dedim. Ciple Metris\u2019e g\u00f6t\u00fcrd\u00fcler. Bir ko\u015fu\u011fa koydular. Tek ba\u015f\u0131nayd\u0131m. \u0130\u015fkence g\u00f6rmedim ama g\u00f6zlerim ba\u011fl\u0131 sorguland\u0131m.<\/p>\n

Metris\u2019ten 10 g\u00fcn sonra Gayrettepe\u2019ye g\u00f6t\u00fcrd\u00fcler. \u0130ki gece kald\u0131m. Oradan Adapazar\u0131\u2019na, Sakarya \u00dcniversitesi\u2019nde \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yor g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcyordum. Milli T\u00fcrk Talebe Birli\u011fi\u2019nin \u00f6nde gelenlerindendim. O y\u00fczden al\u0131nm\u0131\u015f\u0131m.<\/p>\n

Nas\u0131l b\u0131rak\u0131ld\u0131n\u0131z?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Toplam bir ay i\u00e7eride kald\u0131m. Bir dosya haz\u0131rland\u0131 ama bana y\u00f6nelttikleri bir su\u00e7 yoktu. Karde\u015fim Macit \u00e7ok daha a\u011f\u0131r \u015fartlarda i\u00e7eride kald\u0131, i\u015fkence g\u00f6rd\u00fc.<\/p>\n

Bug\u00fcn neler hissediyorsunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00dczerinden \u00e7ok zaman ge\u00e7ti. Daha ba\u015fka ac\u0131lar ya\u015fand\u0131; 60 var, 71 var, 80 sonras\u0131 farkl\u0131 ac\u0131lar var ya\u015fanan… Siyasi tarihten herkesin ders almas\u0131 gerekir. Ancak geriye tak\u0131l\u0131p kalmamak laz\u0131m. Bug\u00fcn ABD ile tam \u00fcyelik m\u00fczakerelerine ba\u015flam\u0131\u015f T\u00fcrkiye\u2019den bahsediyoruz. Ge\u00e7en g\u00fcn Tarabya\u2019da bir polis merkezini ziyaret ettim. Tertemiz, her yerde kamera, i\u015fkenceye s\u0131f\u0131r tolerans.<\/p>\n

ABD ve AB \u0130nsan Haklar\u0131 raporlar\u0131nda T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de yine ihlallerde art\u0131\u015f oldu\u011fundan s\u00f6z ediliyor.<\/strong><\/p>\n

M\u00fckemmel bir haldeyiz demiyorum. \u00d6nemli mesafeler alm\u0131\u015f, eskiyle mukayese edilmeyecek bir T\u00fcrkiye var bug\u00fcn. Her f\u0131rsatta s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorum, reform s\u00fcreci devam etmeli. \u0130nsan haklar\u0131 ihlalleri varsa bunlar\u0131 g\u00f6rmezden gelmek do\u011fru de\u011fil. Uzun y\u0131llar reddettik. Avrupa Konseyi Parlamenterler Meclisi\u2019nde 10 y\u0131l g\u00f6rev yapt\u0131m. T\u00fcrkiye \u00f6ylesine ele\u015ftirilirdi ki, lehimize oy veren tek bir \u00fcye \u00e7\u0131kmazd\u0131. Bir seferinde faili me\u00e7huller konu\u015fuluyordu; T\u00fcrkiye\u2019den gelen 12 milletvekili T\u00fcrkiye\u2019den hay\u0131r verdik. \u2018Su\u00e7lular bulunsun\u2019 diye bir madde vard\u0131. Ben olumlu oy kulland\u0131m, elimi kald\u0131rd\u0131m. Yan\u0131mda sosyalist gruptan bir milletvekili inanamad\u0131, \u00e7ok etkilendi. \u015eimdi Avrupa Konseyi\u2019ne bir T\u00fcrk parlamenter ba\u015fkanl\u0131k ediyor. Bu bizim geldi\u011fimiz noktay\u0131 g\u00f6sterir.<\/p>\n

Patlama, K\u00fcrt sorunu<\/strong><\/p>\n

Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 G\u00fcl, Hakk\u00e2ri\u2019de Ge\u00e7itli K\u00f6y\u00fc\u2019ndeki dokuz sivilin \u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcne yol a\u00e7an may\u0131n patlamas\u0131 \u00fczerine hayli sert de\u011ferlendirmeler yapt\u0131. G\u00fcl, ge\u00e7en y\u0131lki \u201cDemokratik a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131m\u201d\u0131 K\u00fcrt sorununun \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fc y\u00f6n\u00fcnde \u00f6nemli bir f\u0131rsat sayarak, b\u00fcy\u00fck bir destek vermi\u015fti. 12 Eyl\u00fcl referandumunun hemen ertesinde ve 20 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019deki PKK\u2019n\u0131n eylemsizlik karar\u0131 son bulmadan ya\u015fanan olaya \u00e7ok sert tepki g\u00f6sterdi. G\u00fcl\u2019\u00fcn de\u011ferlendirmesi \u015f\u00f6yle:<\/p>\n

\u201cHakk\u00e2ri\u2019deki olayla ilgili Be\u015fir beyden bilgi ald\u0131m. \u00c7ok \u00fcz\u00fcc\u00fc, \u015fiddetle telin ediyoruz. Siviller \u00f6ld\u00fc, ter\u00f6r \u00f6rg\u00fct\u00fcn\u00fcn sicili bu t\u00fcr olaylarda kabar\u0131k. Ge\u00e7mi\u015fte Diyarbak\u0131r\u2019da iki olay ya\u015fand\u0131. Dershane \u00f6n\u00fcnde ve parkta iki bomba patlad\u0131. \u00c7ocuklar kad\u0131nlar \u00f6ld\u00fc. Birinin faili hemen, di\u011feri \u00fc\u00e7 y\u0131l sonra yakalanabildi. E\u011fer failler yakalanmasayd\u0131, ter\u00f6r \u00f6rg\u00fct\u00fc yine \u2018devlet yapt\u0131\u2019 diyecekti. Failler itiraf etmeseydi, olay devletin s\u0131rt\u0131na kalacakt\u0131. Hakk\u00e2ri olay\u0131nda da ayn\u0131 propaganday\u0131 yap\u0131yorlar. Failleri mutlaka bulup, \u00e7\u0131karmak laz\u0131m.\u201d<\/p>\n

Olaydan sonra BDP\u2019nin h\u00fck\u00fcmetle yapaca\u011f\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fme iptal edildi. Ahmet T\u00fcrk\u2019\u00fcn ve BDP\u2019lilerin sizden randevu talepleri var.<\/p>\n

Hen\u00fcz bana ula\u015fan randevu talebi yok. Haber \u00e7\u0131k\u0131nca sordum, talepte bulunmam\u0131\u015flar. Ben \u015funu s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorum; ter\u00f6r\u00fc, ter\u00f6r \u00f6rg\u00fct\u00fcn\u00fc K\u00fcrt meselesinden ay\u0131rmak laz\u0131m. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de demokratik standartlar\u0131n topyek\u00fcn y\u00fckselmesiyle bu meseleler \u015fik\u00e2yet konusu olmaktan \u00e7\u0131kacak. \u0130ster ter\u00f6r, ister K\u00fcrt meselesi deyin, bizim en \u00f6nemli meselemiz G\u00fcneydo\u011fu\u2019da ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131m\u0131z. Bunlar\u0131n \u00e7ok a\u011f\u0131r maliyetleri oluyor. Sorunu ileriye atmak daha da b\u00fcy\u00fct\u00fcyor. Bug\u00fcnk\u00fc \u00e7abalar on y\u0131l \u00f6nce harcansayd\u0131, bu noktada olmazd\u0131k. \u2018Ter\u00f6rle \u015funu elde ettik\u2019 denmesine f\u0131rsat vermeden bu sorunu \u00e7\u00f6zebilmeliyiz. Bug\u00fcn ter\u00f6r\u00fcn en ufak bir gerek\u00e7esi yok T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de. Sokaklara K\u00fcrt\u00e7e afi\u015f asabiliyorsunuz, Diyarbak\u0131r\u2019da \u00e7a\u011fr\u0131 merkezi K\u00fcrt\u00e7e cevap veriyor. Bunlar ke\u015fke 10 y\u0131l \u00f6nce yap\u0131lsayd\u0131, bu kadar masum insan\u0131n zehirlenmesine f\u0131rsat verilmezdi.<\/p>\n

Boykot, yine de etkili oldu.<\/strong><\/p>\n

BDP\u2019ye destek verenlerin hepsine ter\u00f6r \u00f6rg\u00fct\u00fcne sempati duyan insanlar diyemezsiniz. Aileler, a\u015firetler farkl\u0131 nedenlerle oy veriyorlar. B\u00f6lgedeki vatanda\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n \u015funu g\u00f6rmesi laz\u0131m; bir sivilizasyon yaparsak, 80\u2019lerden bu yana ter\u00f6r olmasayd\u0131, cinayetler olmasayd\u0131, T\u00fcrkiye K\u00fcrt meselesinde demokratik standartlar\u0131nda daha ileri noktada olmaz m\u0131yd\u0131? Kesinlikle sorunlar\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7\u00f6zm\u00fc\u015f ve \u00e7ok daha iyi durumda olurdu. Demokrasinin standard\u0131 y\u00fckselirdi, AB ilerlemesi daha h\u0131zl\u0131 olurdu. Ter\u00f6r \u00f6rg\u00fct\u00fc kan d\u00f6kerken siz yapaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 yapamazs\u0131n\u0131z.<\/p>\n

Avrupa\u2019dan gelen Akil Adamlar\u2019a ne diyorsunuz? Ahtisaari sizinle de g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc. Sorun uluslararas\u0131 boyuta m\u0131 ta\u015f\u0131n\u0131yor?<\/p>\n

Hay\u0131r, orada bir arabuluculuk meselesi olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 Ahtisaari kendisi de s\u00f6yledi. Ben zaten onu kastetmedim. Bir zamanlar Avrupa Konseyi\u2019nde \u0130nsan Haklar\u0131 denince bir numaral\u0131 konuydu, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019deki K\u00fcrt sorunu.<\/p>\n

Hakk\u00e2ri\u2019deki may\u0131n patlamas\u0131n\u0131n ba\u015fka nedenleri olamaz m\u0131? BDP de devleti su\u00e7luyor? Sizce soru i\u015faretleri var m\u0131? Bir soru\u015fturma a\u00e7\u0131lacak m\u0131?<\/p>\n

Elbette olay soru\u015fturulacak, ancak bunu silahl\u0131 kuvvetler olsun, emniyet olsun, istihbarat olsun, g\u00fcvenlikten sorumlu kurumlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 zan alt\u0131nda b\u0131rakacak \u015fekilde yaparsak do\u011fru olmaz. Ge\u00e7mi\u015fte baz\u0131 yanl\u0131\u015fl\u0131klar yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015f olabilir ancak silahl\u0131 kuvvetleri, emniyeti sistematik bir \u015fekilde zan alt\u0131nda b\u0131rakmak do\u011fru de\u011fil. Haks\u0131zl\u0131k yapm\u0131\u015f oluruz. Hakk\u00e2ri\u2019deki soru\u015fturma ter\u00f6r \u00f6rg\u00fct\u00fcn\u00fc g\u00f6steriyor. Daha \u00f6nce oradan ge\u00e7en askeri ara\u00e7lar var. Ter\u00f6r \u00f6rg\u00fct\u00fc i\u00e7inde de ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z gruplar var.<\/p>\n

Devlet kurumlar\u0131 yapm\u0131\u015f olamaz m\u0131?<\/p>\n

Ben bug\u00fcnk\u00fc T\u00fcrkiye ortam\u0131nda bu t\u00fcr mevzi hatalar\u0131, bireysel yanl\u0131\u015fl\u0131klara ihtimal vermiyorum. Devlet kurumlar\u0131n\u0131n bilgisi d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda dahi buna ihtimal vermiyorum.<\/p>\n

Referandumdan \u00f6nce sizin \u0130mral\u0131\u2019ya y\u00f6nelik \u2018Devlet g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmez ama devlet kurumlar\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fme yapm\u0131\u015f olabilir\u2019 \u015feklinde yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131n\u0131z oldu. Sorunun \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fcnde \u00d6calan ve Kandil ile g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fclmesini de savunan \u00e7evreler var.<\/p>\n

\u00d6nemli olan ter\u00f6r\u00fc g\u00fcndemden \u00e7\u0131karmak. Ve asla taviz vermeden bunu yapabilmek. Sen devletsin, bu konuda ki metodu uzmanlar bilir. Komutanlar, istihbarat, emniyet, g\u00fcvenlik mensuplar\u0131 metodu belirler. Bunlar tavsiyelerini yapar. \u00d6yle tart\u0131\u015fmalar yap\u0131l\u0131yor ki, devletin elini kolunu ba\u011fl\u0131yor. Benim \u00f6n\u00fcmdeki hedef, ter\u00f6r \u00f6rg\u00fct\u00fcn\u00fcn tasfiyesi. Ter\u00f6r \u00f6rg\u00fct\u00fcyle asla pazarl\u0131k yap\u0131lmaz. Devlet pazarl\u0131k yapmaz.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a>BM\u2019de Bin Y\u0131l Zirvesi<\/strong><\/p>\n

Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 G\u00fcl\u2019e BM\u2019de Ba\u015fbakan Yard\u0131mc\u0131s\u0131 Ali Babacan, D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri Bakan\u0131 Ahmet Davuto\u011flu, \u00c7evre ve Orman Bakan\u0131 Veysel Ero\u011flu e\u015flik edecekler. G\u00fcl, Bin Y\u0131l Kalk\u0131nma Hedefleri Zirvesi\u2019nin a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131\u015f\u0131na kat\u0131lacak, \u201cYoksulluk, A\u00e7l\u0131k ve Cinsiyet E\u015fitli\u011fi Sorunlar\u0131yla M\u00fccadele\u201d ba\u015fl\u0131kl\u0131 yuvarlak masa toplant\u0131s\u0131na Etiyopya Ba\u015fbakan\u0131 ile e\u015fba\u015fkanl\u0131k yapacak. Zirve boyunca ABD Ba\u015fkan\u0131 Obama\u2019dan \u0130ran Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 Ahmedinecad\u2019a dek pek \u00e7ok lider ile temasta bulunmas\u0131 bekleniyor.<\/p>\n

\u00d6ZERKL\u0130K TALEB\u0130 MASUM DE\u011e\u0130L<\/strong><\/p>\n

BDP\u2019nin demokratik \u00f6zerklik talebine ne diyorsunuz?<\/p>\n

Bunlar\u0131n hepsi \u00e7ok yanl\u0131\u015f. Zihin buland\u0131r\u0131c\u0131. G\u00fcven azalt\u0131c\u0131. Ayr\u0131\u015ft\u0131r\u0131c\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnce tarzlar\u0131. Masum de\u011fil. Kurgusu var, arka plan\u0131 var. Hi\u00e7birini do\u011fru bulmuyorum. Ademi merkeziyet\u00e7ilik, yerel y\u00f6netimlerin g\u00fc\u00e7lendirilmesi olabilir. Bunlar ayr\u0131 konular. Yerel y\u00f6netimler reformu \u00e7er\u00e7evesinde bakmak gerekir.<\/p>\n

Demokratik a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131m\u0131n sonunda PKK\u2019ya silah b\u0131rakt\u0131rmak hedef al\u0131nm\u0131yor muydu? \u015eimdi yeniden \u00e7at\u0131\u015fmal\u0131 d\u00f6neme mi girilecek?<\/p>\n

T\u00fcrkiye silahl\u0131 ter\u00f6rle m\u00fccadelede asla taviz vermez. Hi\u00e7bir h\u00fck\u00fcmet vermez. Devletin g\u00fcc\u00fc hi\u00e7bir ter\u00f6r \u00f6rg\u00fct\u00fcne kar\u015f\u0131 yenilmez.<\/p>\n

Kaynak : Derya Sazak –Milliyet<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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Derya Sazak<\/p>\n

G\u00fcl, 12 Eyl\u00fcl d\u00f6neminde kendisine i\u015fkence yap\u0131lmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, ancak g\u00f6zleri ba\u011fl\u0131 sorguland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ve siyasi \u015fubede i\u015fkence g\u00f6renlerin \u00f6n\u00fcnden ge\u00e7ti\u011fini anlatt\u0131. G\u00fcl, \u201cKarde\u015fim Macit \u00e7ok daha a\u011f\u0131r \u015fartlarda i\u00e7eride kald\u0131, i\u015fkence g\u00f6rd\u00fc\u201d dedi<\/p>\n

New York<\/p>\n

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