{"id":25102,"date":"2010-08-25T18:00:33","date_gmt":"2010-08-25T15:00:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.korhanyilmaz.com\/?p=25102"},"modified":"2010-08-25T18:00:33","modified_gmt":"2010-08-25T15:00:33","slug":"ocalan-getirildigi-gunden-beri-ziyaret-ediliyor","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.korhanyilmaz.com\/?p=25102","title":{"rendered":"“\u00d6calan getirildi\u011fi g\u00fcnden beri ziyaret ediliyor”"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Adalet Bakan\u0131 Sadullah Ergin, ter\u00f6rist ba\u015f\u0131 Abdullah \u00d6calan’\u0131n yakalan\u0131p T\u00fcrkiye’ye getirildi\u011fi g\u00fcnden beri devletin \u00e7e\u015fitli kurumlar\u0131nca ziyaret edildi\u011fini anlatt\u0131.<\/p>\n

Adalet Bakan\u0131 Sadullah Ergin, g\u00fcndeme ili\u015fkin NTV’nin sorular\u0131n\u0131 yan\u0131tlad\u0131. Bakan Ergin, Hrant Dink davas\u0131yla ilgili bir soruya, “Devlet dostane \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm \u00f6nerisinde bulunacak. Eyl\u00fcl ay\u0131 ba\u015f\u0131nda A\u0130HM karar s\u00fcrecine giriyor. Bu s\u00fcre\u00e7ten \u00f6nce ba\u015fvuru yap\u0131lacakt\u0131r. En k\u0131sa s\u00fcrede T\u00fcrkiye m\u00fcracaat\u0131n\u0131 yapacakt\u0131r. Geri \u00e7ekilmeyecek dava. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc savunma yap\u0131ld\u0131. M\u00fcracat daha \u00f6nceki savunmay\u0131 tahsis eden beyanlar\u0131 i\u00e7erecek” dedi. <\/p>\n

S\u00f6z konusu davan\u0131n uzmanlarla de\u011ferlendirildi\u011fini ve \u0130\u00e7i\u015fleri, D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri ile Adalet Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131nca birlikte \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 dile getiren Ergin, “Bu \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma sonucunda, T\u00fcrkiye’nin A\u0130HM’de yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015f olan savunman\u0131n arkas\u0131nda durmas\u0131n\u0131n do\u011fru olmayaca\u011f\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fc ortaya \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131. Bununla beraber Dink hayat\u0131n\u0131 kaybetti. Bundan dolay\u0131 A\u0130HS 2. maddesini dikkate almak gerekir. Bu mahkemeye T\u00fcrkiye’nin tek tarafl\u0131 deglerasyonda bulunmas\u0131 g\u00fcndemde. Bununlar ilgili olarak teknik \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131m\u0131z s\u00fcrmekte. Bu anlamda ‘\u015fu noktada yapmam\u0131z gerekenleri tam anlam\u0131yla yerine getiremedik’ anlam\u0131n\u0131 ta\u015f\u0131yacak bir m\u00fcracaat de\u011fildir. Davada maddi tazminat talebi de var. Mahkemede iste\u011fi kendi i\u00e7tihat\u0131na g\u00f6re \u00e7\u00f6zecektir” a\u00e7\u0131klamas\u0131nda bulundu.<\/p>\n

“\u0130ddian\u0131 kan\u0131tla”<\/strong><\/p>\n

Eski\u015fehir Emniyet M\u00fcd\u00fcr\u00fc Hanefi Avc\u0131’n\u0131n yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131 kitapla ilgili iddialar\u0131 da cevaplayan Bakan Ergin, Avc\u0131’n\u0131n gelip kendisi hakk\u0131nda komplo kuruldu\u011funa dair g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015flerini payla\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, ancak cemaat yap\u0131lanmas\u0131 hakk\u0131nda tek kelime etmedi\u011fini anlatt\u0131. Hanefi Avc\u0131’n\u0131n iddialar\u0131n\u0131n bir k\u0131sm\u0131n\u0131n do\u011fru oldu\u011fu s\u00f6zlerine ekleyen Ergin \u015f\u00f6yle konu\u015ftu:<\/p>\n

“Say\u0131n Avc\u0131, Ocak ay\u0131nda geldi. Randevu talep etti\u011fi do\u011fru. Dilek\u00e7eyle geldi. Kendisine kar\u015f\u0131 bir komplo giri\u015fiminde bulunuldu\u011funu, kendisi ve yak\u0131nlar\u0131n\u0131n yasa d\u0131\u015f\u0131 dinlenme sarmal\u0131 i\u00e7ersinde olduklar\u0131n\u0131, \u015fikayet\u00e7i oldu\u011funu yazm\u0131\u015f dilek\u00e7esinde. Ancak Avc\u0131 benimle g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmesinde ne Adalet Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 Tefti\u015f Kurulu’nun cemaat yap\u0131lanmas\u0131yla ilgili ne de bakanl\u0131k i\u00e7indeki kadrolara ili\u015fkin herhangi bir s\u00f6ylemde bulunmam\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Dilek\u00e7esinde de b\u00f6yle bir ifade yoktur. Tamamen kendisiyle ilgili dinlemeleri \u015fikayet etmi\u015ftir. Soru\u015fturma ba\u015flat\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r \u015fikayeti do\u011frultusunda. Kendisine de soru\u015fturman\u0131n ba\u015flat\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 tebli\u011f edilmi\u015ftir. Adalet Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 da inceleme ba\u015flatt\u0131. Avc\u0131’n\u0131n bakanl\u0131\u011fa getirdi\u011fi dilek\u00e7ede sadece dinlemeyle alakal\u0131 \u015fikayeti vard\u0131r. Kendisinin de ifadesine ba\u015fvurulacakt\u0131r. Yanl\u0131\u015f bir alg\u0131 olu\u015ftu. Sanki kitap i\u00e7ersindeki iddialar, bakanl\u0131k i\u00e7erisinde cemaatlere mahsusu ki\u015filerin grupla\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131, \u015feklindeki beyanlar sanki bakanla payla\u015f\u0131lm\u0131\u015f, ama buna ra\u011fmen bakanl\u0131k bir i\u015flem yapmam\u0131\u015f gibi bir alg\u0131 olu\u015fuyor. Bu do\u011fru de\u011fildir. \u015eifahen de cemaatlerle ilgili bir \u015fey s\u00f6ylememi\u015ftir. \u0130nceleme sonucunda kitapta yaz\u0131lanlardan do\u011fruluk pay\u0131 olanlar tespit edilirse gereken yap\u0131lacakt\u0131r. Tespit edilemezse iddia sahibine ‘l\u00fctfen iddian\u0131z\u0131 kan\u0131tlay\u0131n’ denilecek. Sonucu beklemekte fayda var.”<\/p>\n

HSYK’deki kriz <\/strong><\/p>\n

Hakim ve savc\u0131 atamalar\u0131 s\u0131ras\u0131nda Bakanl\u0131k ile HSYK aras\u0131nda \u00e7\u0131kan krizin an\u0131msat\u0131lmas\u0131 \u00fczerine Bakan Ergin \u015f\u00f6yle konu\u015ftu:<\/p>\n

“Kararnamenin 12 Eyl\u00fcl’den sonras\u0131na ertelendi\u011fi tespitine kat\u0131lm\u0131yorum. Kurul \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131 sonlanacakken g\u00fcndeme getirilen g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fclmeyen k\u0131s\u0131mlar geri \u00e7ekildi, de\u011ferlendirmeler yap\u0131l\u0131p kurula yine sunulacak \u015feklinde \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar yap\u0131lmaktad\u0131r. Bu \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n yeti\u015fmesi halinde belki 12 Eyl\u00fcl’den \u00f6ncesine yeti\u015fir. \u015eimdiden 12 Eyl\u00fcl sonras\u0131na kald\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6ylemek do\u011fru olmaz. Yarg\u0131ya, yasama ya da y\u00fcr\u00fctme m\u00fcdahale edilmesin. Yarg\u0131 ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z deniliyor. Halbuki yarg\u0131 ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131 sadece bu demek de\u011fil. Bu yarg\u0131 ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 olu\u015fturacaklar etmenlerden bir tanesidir. Yarg\u0131y\u0131, parlamento, medya, STK’lar yarg\u0131ya d\u0131\u015far\u0131dan m\u00fcdahale edebilecek mekanizmalard\u0131r.<\/p>\n

Bir di\u011fer etki mekanizmalar\u0131 da HSYK, Yarg\u0131tay ve Dan\u0131\u015ftayd\u0131r. Yarg\u0131c\u0131n kendi d\u00fcnya g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fc ve felsefi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnce tarz\u0131 da bir etkidir. Yarg\u0131\u00e7, kendi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnce tarz\u0131ndan da ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z olarak \u00f6n\u00fcndeki dosyaya bakabilmelidir. Bu etkilerden yarg\u0131y\u0131 ar\u0131nd\u0131rd\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda yarg\u0131 ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 sa\u011flam\u0131\u015f oluruz. Yarg\u0131 ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131 ba\u015fl\u0131 ba\u015f\u0131na bir ama\u00e7 de\u011fildir, olamaz.<\/p>\n

T\u00fcrkiye’de \u00f6teden beri g\u00fcven veren bir adalet sistemi tesis edemedi\u011fimiz a\u00e7\u0131kt\u0131r. Uluslar aras\u0131 yapm\u0131\u015f oldu\u011fumuz m\u00fczakerelerden de bunu g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz. Ge\u00e7mi\u015ften gelen \u00e7ok say\u0131da \u00f6rnek var. Dan\u0131\u015ftay’\u0131n vermi\u015f oldu kararlar inceleye de\u011fer. Hakim ve savc\u0131 al\u0131mlar\u0131na y\u00f6nelik m\u00fclakatta Dan\u0131\u015ftay kamera ile kay\u0131t alt\u0131na al\u0131nmas\u0131n\u0131 istiyor. 2009’da bu karar\u0131 veriyor. Bir ay sonra Milli Savunma Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131’n\u0131n s\u00f6zle\u015fmeli subay al\u0131m\u0131nda bu karara uyulmuyor. Yani Adalet Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 yap\u0131nca kay\u0131t alt\u0131na al\u0131nmas\u0131 gerekiyor, fakat Milli Savunma Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 yap\u0131nca sorun yok. M\u00fclakatlarda kamera kayd\u0131 olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in iptal isteminde Dan\u0131\u015ftay farkl\u0131 kararlar vermi\u015ftir. Kat say\u0131 ile ilgili yap\u0131lan ba\u015fvuruyu Dan\u0131\u015ftay kabul etmi\u015f, Y\u00d6K’\u00fcn d\u00fczenlemelerini iptal etmi\u015ftir. Yarg\u0131 reformu stratejisi yarg\u0131daki eksiklikleri tamamlamaya y\u00f6nelik bir \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma. Hakimin tarafs\u0131z olmas\u0131 yetmez. Tarafs\u0131z g\u00f6z\u00fckmesi de laz\u0131m.”<\/p>\n

\u0130mral\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmesi <\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00d6calan ile g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fme iddialar\u0131n\u0131 da yan\u0131tlayan Ergin, ter\u00f6rist ba\u015f\u0131 Abdullah \u00d6calan’\u0131n yakalan\u0131p T\u00fcrkiye’ye getirildi\u011fi g\u00fcnden beri devletin \u00e7e\u015fitli kurumlar\u0131nca ziyaret edildi\u011fini kaydetti. Ergin \u015f\u00f6yle konu\u015ftu:<\/p>\n

“Hi\u00e7 kimse ulusal bir mesele \u00fczerinden g\u00fcnl\u00fck polemiklere girmesin. \u00d6calan yakalan\u0131p getirildi\u011fi zamandan beri g\u00fcvenlik g\u00fc\u00e7leri ve devletin istihbarat birimleri ihtiya\u00e7 duyuldu\u011funda zaman zaman g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc. Bug\u00fcn ba\u015flamad\u0131. Bu bir ihtiya\u00e7t\u0131. Ak Parti h\u00fck\u00fcmeti ve siyaset kurumu asla b\u00f6yle bir \u015feye tevess\u00fcl etmez ama devletin g\u00fcvenlik kurumlar\u0131 ihtiya\u00e7 duyulursa g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcr.”<\/p>\n

Adalet Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131na ba\u011fl\u0131 Cezaevi m\u00fcd\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcn oldu\u011funu ve bu m\u00fcd\u00fcrl\u00fc\u011fe ba\u011fl\u0131 bir \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan\u0131n oldu\u011funu vurgulayan Ergin, “Adalet Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131’n\u0131n zaten personeli oray\u0131 y\u00f6netiyor. Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131n m\u00fcste\u015far\u0131n\u0131n gidip g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc\u011f\u00fc do\u011fru de\u011fil. G\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmelere ilgili yetkilik savc\u0131l\u0131k izin verir” a\u00e7\u0131klamas\u0131nda bulundu.<\/p>\n

\u0130stihbarat \u00f6rg\u00fctleri ve ter\u00f6rle m\u00fccadele kurumlar\u0131n\u0131n \u00d6calan ile zaman zaman g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc ifade eden Ergin, “\u00d6nemli olan devletin kendini koruma refleksi i\u00e7inde gerekli \u015fartlar\u0131 kullanmas\u0131 do\u011fald\u0131r” dedi.<\/p>\n

“Ter\u00f6r estiren unsurlar\u0131 c\u00fcretlendirecek a\u00e7\u0131klamalar gereksiz” <\/strong><\/p>\n

Bakan Ergin ba\u015fka bir soru \u00fczerine, siyaset kurumu olarak muhataplar\u0131n\u0131n Meclis’teki partiler oldu\u011funu ifade ederek, \u015f\u00f6yle konu\u015ftu:<\/p>\n

“Yap\u0131lacak olan \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar, 73 milyon insan i\u00e7in yap\u0131lacak \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalard\u0131r. Bu anlamda, Anayasam\u0131zda yap\u0131lacak olan de\u011fi\u015fiklikler tamamen 70 milyonu muhatap alarak yap\u0131lmak istenen de\u011fi\u015fikliklerdir. Ak Parti’nin yapmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u015fey 73 milyonun elini g\u00fc\u00e7lendirecek ad\u0131mlar atmak. Demokratik \u00f6zerklik gibi teklifler getiren taleplerinin T\u00fcrkiye’de ne sosyolojik ne siyasal hi\u00e7bir alt yap\u0131s\u0131 yoktur. Da\u011fdaki ter\u00f6r unsurlar\u0131n\u0131n T\u00fcrkiye’de hi\u00e7bir kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131 yoktur. Eline silah alm\u0131\u015f ter\u00f6r estiren unsurlar\u0131 c\u00fcretlendirecek a\u00e7\u0131klamalar\u0131 gereksiz g\u00f6r\u00fcyorum. Pazarl\u0131k g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmeleri ibaresi yanl\u0131\u015f. Kabul edemeyece\u011fimiz bir tespit. Parlamentodaki me\u015fru muhataplar\u0131m\u0131z belli.”<\/p>\n

“Ba\u015fbakanla 24 saat g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcr\u00fcm” <\/strong><\/p>\n

Bakan Ergin, YA\u015e toplant\u0131lar\u0131 s\u0131ras\u0131nda Ba\u015fbakan Recep Tayyip Erdo\u011fan’\u0131 s\u0131k s\u0131k ziyaret etti\u011fini ve bunun baz\u0131 tart\u0131\u015fmalara neden oldu\u011fu y\u00f6n\u00fcndeki soru \u00fczerine, kabinenin bakanlar\u0131ndan biri oldu\u011funu ve ba\u015fbakanla g\u00fcn\u00fcn 24 saati g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015febilece\u011fini dile getirdi. Ergin \u015f\u00f6yle devam etti:<\/p>\n

“Ayr\u0131ca Say\u0131n K\u0131l\u0131\u00e7daro\u011flu’nun iddialar\u0131 var. K\u0131l\u0131\u00e7daro\u011flu’nun ortaya att\u0131\u011f\u0131 iddialar ger\u00e7ek d\u0131\u015f\u0131d\u0131r. T\u00fcrkiye’de en kolay \u015fey iddia ortaya atmak. Adeta itham etme makinesi gibi \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan bir makine var. Bunlar\u0131 temelli reddediyoruz. Bunu s\u00f6yleyen ki\u015finin m\u00fcdeddel halde ispat etmesi gerek. ‘Adalet Bakan\u0131 hakimlere talimat veriyor’ diyor. Bu h\u00fck\u00fcmet 2004 y\u0131l\u0131nda hakim ve savc\u0131lara talimat verilmesini kald\u0131ran h\u00fck\u00fcmet. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla bir tane laf s\u00f6ylendi\u011fi zaman arkas\u0131n\u0131n dolu olmas\u0131 laz\u0131m. Bir tane hakim \u00e7\u0131ks\u0131n ‘Adalet Bakan\u0131 bana talimat verdi’ desin ben bu mesle\u011fi b\u0131rak\u0131yorum.”<\/p>\n

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Adalet Bakan\u0131 Sadullah Ergin, ter\u00f6rist ba\u015f\u0131 Abdullah \u00d6calan’\u0131n yakalan\u0131p T\u00fcrkiye’ye getirildi\u011fi g\u00fcnden beri devletin \u00e7e\u015fitli kurumlar\u0131nca ziyaret edildi\u011fini anlatt\u0131.<\/p>\n

Adalet Bakan\u0131 Sadullah Ergin, g\u00fcndeme ili\u015fkin NTV’nin sorular\u0131n\u0131 yan\u0131tlad\u0131. Bakan Ergin, Hrant Dink davas\u0131yla ilgili bir soruya, “Devlet dostane \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm \u00f6nerisinde bulunacak. Eyl\u00fcl ay\u0131 ba\u015f\u0131nda A\u0130HM karar s\u00fcrecine giriyor. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[105],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-25102","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gundem","odd"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.korhanyilmaz.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25102","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.korhanyilmaz.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.korhanyilmaz.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.korhanyilmaz.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.korhanyilmaz.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=25102"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.korhanyilmaz.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25102\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.korhanyilmaz.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=25102"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.korhanyilmaz.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=25102"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.korhanyilmaz.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=25102"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}