{"id":13655,"date":"2009-08-18T09:02:42","date_gmt":"2009-08-18T06:02:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.korhanyilmaz.com\/?p=13655"},"modified":"2009-08-18T09:02:42","modified_gmt":"2009-08-18T06:02:42","slug":"basbakan-dedesinden-cveneburi-kelimesini-duydu-mu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.korhanyilmaz.com\/?p=13655","title":{"rendered":"Ba\u015fbakan Dedesinden '\u00c7VENEBUR\u0130' Kelimesini Duydu mu?"},"content":{"rendered":"

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ODATV\u2019nin d\u00fcn \u201cBa\u015fbakan Erdo\u011fan Dedesinin Nereli Oldu\u011funu ODATV\u2019den \u00d6\u011frenecek\u201d ba\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131yla yay\u0131nlad\u0131\u011f\u0131 haber b\u00fcy\u00fck ilgi g\u00f6rd\u00fc.<\/p>\n

Haberimizde Ba\u015fbakan Recep Tayyip Erdo\u011fan\u2019\u0131n dedesinin G\u00fcrcistan\u2019a ba\u011fl\u0131 G\u00fcney Osetya b\u00f6lgesindeki Bagata k\u00f6y\u00fcnden olabilece\u011fini orta koyduk. Bu bulgu Ba\u015fbakan\u2019\u0131n aile k\u00f6keninin Oset olabilece\u011fine i\u015faret ediyor.<\/p>\n

Ancak Kafkasya uzman\u0131 olan bir okurumuzdan habere itiraz geldi. Bulgular\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n tamam\u0131n\u0131n do\u011fru olmayabilece\u011fine dikkat \u00e7eken okurumuza g\u00f6re Ba\u015fbakan\u2019\u0131n Oset k\u00f6kenli olma ihtimalini \u00e7ok d\u00fc\u015f\u00fck. Peki o zaman Ba\u015fbakan\u2019\u0131n k\u00f6keninde ne var? <\/p>\n

Okurumuzdan gelen yaz\u0131y\u0131 aynen yay\u0131nl\u0131yoruz: <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

\u201cSay\u0131n ODA TV Yetkilileri,<\/p>\n

Ba\u015fbakan Say\u0131n R. Tayyip Erdo\u011fan\u2019\u0131n \u201colas\u0131\u201d etnik k\u00f6kenleri ile ilgili bir haber yay\u0131nlam\u0131\u015f bulunmaktas\u0131n\u0131z.<\/p>\n

\u00d6ncelikle, T\u00fcrkiye Cumhuriyeti vatanda\u015flar\u0131n\u0131n etno-k\u00fclt\u00fcrel alt grup aidiyetlerinin kamuoyunda tart\u0131\u015f\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131n art\u0131k moda haline geldi\u011fi g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde, \u00f6zellikle kamu g\u00f6revlilerinin bu a\u00e7\u0131dan kamuya a\u00e7\u0131k bir bi\u00e7imde \u201cincelenmesini\u201d faydal\u0131 bulmuyorum. T\u00fcrkiye Cumhuriyeti vatanda\u015f\u0131 olan herkes T\u00fcrk\u2019t\u00fcr. Bunun d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda, \u201cki\u015fisel tarih ve kimli\u011fi\u201dne ait bilgiler \u00f6zel hayat alan\u0131na dahildir. Bundan sonraki a\u00e7\u0131klamalar\u0131m\u0131 daha anla\u015f\u0131labilir k\u0131lar \u00fcmidiyle kendime ait bir \u00f6zel bilgiyi sizlerle payla\u015faca\u011f\u0131m: Babam Oset (\u0130ron) k\u00f6kenli, annem ise Adige (\u015eaps\u0131\u011f) k\u00f6kenlidir. Yani, k\u00f6ken olarak Kuzey Kafkasyal\u0131y\u0131m.<\/p>\n

Belki Say\u0131n Ba\u015fbakan\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n ecdad\u0131 G\u00fcney Osetyal\u0131 olabilir. Fakat eminim ki Oset de\u011fillerdir. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019deki Asetinler \u2013 Osetler, Kuzey Osetya (Iriston ya da yeni ad\u0131yla Alania) k\u00f6kenlidir. \u0130ron veya Digor boylar\u0131na mensupturlar (Digorlar az\u0131nl\u0131ktad\u0131r). G\u00fcney Osetya\u2019l\u0131lar Tualleg olarak adland\u0131r\u0131l\u0131r. Ki bu isim Oset dilinde \u201cG\u00fcney Adam\u0131\u201d demektir. H\u0131ristiyand\u0131rlar. Genelde G\u00fcrc\u00fclerle i\u00e7i\u00e7e ya\u015farlar(d\u0131). G\u00f6\u00e7 (ya da s\u00fcrg\u00fcn) esnas\u0131nda Osmanl\u0131 topraklar\u0131na s\u0131\u011f\u0131nmam\u0131\u015flard\u0131r. Zaten Ruslarla aralar\u0131 nispeten daha iyimi\u015f, ayn\u0131 dindenlermi\u015f. Herhalde tehdit potansiyelleri m\u00fcsl\u00fcman hem\u015ferileri kadar y\u00fcksek alg\u0131lanmam\u0131\u015f Rus emperyal b\u00fcrokrasisi taraf\u0131ndan.<\/p>\n

Osetler Kafkasya\u2019dan 19. y\u00fczy\u0131l i\u00e7erisinde Osmanl\u0131 topraklar\u0131na s\u00fcr\u00fcld\u00fcklerinde, gemilerle \u0130stanbul\u2019a getirilmi\u015fler. Padi\u015fah, ileri gelenlerine, b\u00fct\u00fcn yurdu gezmelerini, be\u011fendikleri yerde yerle\u015fmelerini istemi\u015f, o topraklar\u0131 kendilerine ve ailelerine ba\u011f\u0131\u015flayacaklar\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6ylemi\u015f. Bizim atalar ba\u015flam\u0131\u015f gezmeye\u2026 Sar\u0131kam\u0131\u015f\u2019\u0131 be\u011fenmi\u015fler. Atayurduna yak\u0131n olmas\u0131 bu se\u00e7imde \u00f6nemli bir fakt\u00f6rm\u00fc\u015f. Bir g\u00fcn geri gideriz, yurdumuza kavu\u015furuz hayali i\u015fte.<\/p>\n

Sar\u0131kam\u0131\u015f\u2019a yerle\u015ftikten sonra yerel halk ve Ruslarla sorunlar ya\u015fanm\u0131\u015f, baz\u0131lar\u0131 g\u00f6\u00e7 etmi\u015f yeniden. Mu\u015f\u2019a, Sivas\u2019a, Yozgat\u2019a yerle\u015fenler olmu\u015f. \u00dclkemizdeki Oset k\u00f6kenliler de bu memleketlerdendir. Do\u011fal olarak, sonraki y\u0131llarda genel n\u00fcfusun i\u00e7 g\u00f6\u00e7 hareketlerine paralel \u015fekilde yer de\u011fi\u015ftirmeler ya\u015fanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r.<\/p>\n

Oset k\u00f6kenlilerin \u00fclkemizdeki toplam n\u00fcfuslar\u0131yla ilgili sa\u011fl\u0131kl\u0131 bilgim yok. Ama di\u011fer Kuzey Kafkas k\u00f6kenli gruplarla kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131klar\u0131nda n\u00fcfuslar\u0131 \u00e7ok daha az d\u00fczeydedir. Say\u0131n\u0131n k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fckl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc nispeten daha iyi bir \u201ctan\u0131ma-tan\u0131\u015fma\u201d ortam\u0131 yaratm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Son derece emin olunuz ki, Ba\u015fbakan\u0131m\u0131z Oset k\u00f6kenli olsayd\u0131, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de, bu k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck etno-k\u00fclt\u00fcrel topluluk i\u00e7erisinde bu haber son derece yayg\u0131n olurdu. Muhtemelen de b\u00fcy\u00fck bir gurur kayna\u011f\u0131.<\/p>\n

G\u00fcney Osetyal\u0131 ise Oset olmas\u0131 ihtimali son derece d\u00fc\u015f\u00fck. G\u00fcrc\u00fc (Kartveli) k\u00f6kenli olmas\u0131 da pek akla yatk\u0131n de\u011fil. O b\u00f6lgedeki G\u00fcrc\u00fcler H\u0131ristiyan\u2019d\u0131r. Yani, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de ya\u015fayan yerel G\u00fcrc\u00fcler (\u00c7veneburi) ya da Acaralar gibi M\u00fcsl\u00fcman de\u011filler. Osmanl\u0131 topraklar\u0131na niye gelsin atalar\u0131? Pek makul g\u00f6r\u00fcnm\u00fcyor. Rize\u2019de \u00e7ok az say\u0131da Kuzey Kafkas k\u00f6kenli insan ya\u015f\u0131yor. B\u00f6yle olsayd\u0131, yine de duyulurdu, bilinirdi; efendim hangi halktand\u0131r, hangi s\u00fclaledendir, en az\u0131ndan b\u00fcy\u00fckler bilgi sahibi olurlard\u0131.<\/p>\n

Benim ki\u015fisel d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncem, sizlerin G\u00fcney Osetya\u2019da buldu\u011funuz k\u00f6y\u00fcn ad\u0131n\u0131n \u201cBakata\u2019l\u0131 Tayyip\u201d ile pek ilgili olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131d\u0131r. Bagata k\u00f6y\u00fcn\u00fcn ger\u00e7ek ad\u0131 muhtemelen ya \u201cBagatar\u201dd\u0131r (Oset\u00e7e bir \u00f6zel isim) veya \u201cBagate\u201d, \u201cBagatte\u201ddir. \u201cTe\u201d eki, \u201c-lar,-ler\u201d ile e\u015fanlaml\u0131d\u0131r. Muhtemelen \u201cBaga\u201d veya \u201cBagat\u201d s\u00fclalesinin k\u00f6y\u00fc anlam\u0131ndad\u0131r.<\/p>\n

Ba\u015fbakan\u0131m\u0131z muhtemelen kendi k\u00f6kenleri ile ilgili en sa\u011fl\u0131kl\u0131 bilgi sahibi insand\u0131r. \u201cG\u00fcrc\u00fc\u201d k\u00f6kenliyim diyorsa, herhalde \u00f6yledir. Muhtemelen de ya \u00c7veneburi ya da Acara k\u00f6kenlidir.<\/p>\n

Kendi ki\u015fisel\u00a0 ve do\u011fal olarak k\u0131s\u0131tl\u0131 bilgi birikimimle bu konuyu biraz daha ayd\u0131nlatabildi\u011fimi \u00fcmit ediyor, \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131zda ba\u015far\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131z\u0131n devam\u0131n\u0131 diliyorum.<\/p>\n

Sayg\u0131lar\u0131mla,<\/p>\n

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ODATV\u2019nin d\u00fcn \u201cBa\u015fbakan Erdo\u011fan Dedesinin Nereli Oldu\u011funu ODATV\u2019den \u00d6\u011frenecek\u201d ba\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131yla yay\u0131nlad\u0131\u011f\u0131 haber b\u00fcy\u00fck ilgi g\u00f6rd\u00fc.<\/p>\n

Haberimizde Ba\u015fbakan Recep Tayyip Erdo\u011fan\u2019\u0131n dedesinin G\u00fcrcistan\u2019a ba\u011fl\u0131 G\u00fcney Osetya b\u00f6lgesindeki Bagata k\u00f6y\u00fcnden olabilece\u011fini orta koyduk. Bu bulgu Ba\u015fbakan\u2019\u0131n aile k\u00f6keninin Oset olabilece\u011fine i\u015faret ediyor.<\/p>\n

Ancak Kafkasya uzman\u0131 olan bir okurumuzdan <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[105],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-13655","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gundem","odd"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.korhanyilmaz.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13655","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.korhanyilmaz.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.korhanyilmaz.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.korhanyilmaz.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.korhanyilmaz.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=13655"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.korhanyilmaz.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13655\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.korhanyilmaz.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=13655"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.korhanyilmaz.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=13655"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.korhanyilmaz.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=13655"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}